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i hand it over to cnn's brooke baldwin. >> thank you, randi, very much, and good afternoon to all of you. i'm brooke baldwin and here is what is going on in the next two hours. cnn has new information of how the american authorities are sift through the piles and piles of bin laden information that they acquired from his compound. and also today, bin laden's sons accusing the u.s. of assassinating their father. a lot of news, and first i want to start the newscast with another infamous man that we have not heard from in a couple of weeks. where is moammar gadhafi? he has not been seen since the air strikes on his compound 12 days ago. he wiz as in the compound since that strike, and his aids say that he is fine, and cnn has not
confirmed that this video was shot afterwards. three of his grandsons was killed in that attack, but gadhafi was not at the funerals, and they say it is a security concern, so the question is, is he alive or dead? nato doesn't seem to know or care. listen to this. >> we have no evidence about what mr. gadhafi is doing right now. and i tell you the truth, we are not interested in what he is doing. our mandate is to protect the civilians from the attacks and the threats of attacks, so we are not looking after individuals. >> sara sidner is in benghazi, and the stronghold of benghazi, and sarah, it has been 12 days since we have seen moammar gadhafi since the air strike, and he has been awfully quiet, and where is he? >> reporter: yeah, it is a question that no one here knows the answer to. there are a lot of people speculating about what has happened to him.
and people were speculating that he is not well, and some speculating that something worse than that has happened to him, and as you mentioned, libya's prime minister has said that he is not been seen and he is in mourning after the death of his family members and his son in particular, and there is growing sfekulation, because when you don't hear from him, and we certainly heard from him after the air strike that hit the compound in triply, and since then, there are other air strikes and more victories claimed by the rebels, so at lot of people wondering why they are not hearing anything from colonel gadhafi as this sort of revolution continues. so, it is a big, big question mark. but as you heard there, nato saying, look, we don't know what has happened to him. we don't know what his condition is, and we have also not heard from him, and that they are saying that they are not concentrating on that. what they are concentrating on is to make sure that civilians are safe, but as far as the rebels, they would love to know where he is, but those are for different reason, because the people here talk about gadhafi and talk about wanting to kill
gadhafi, and that is the aim. they want to either get him out of the country or kill him. so, as you might imagine, he may be keepling his head down, so to speak, because there is a lot of anger in this country towards him. but, yeah, a lot of people wondering exactly what has happened to him and where he is and why they have not seen or heard from him since april 30th. >> sara, checking back in on the story that we have covered consistently for weeks and weeks in terms of the momentum, and how do the rebels there in benghazi feel? is the gadhafi regime, and albeit, we don't know whether he is dead or alive, is it at all crumbling? >> reporter: here in benghazi, what you are hearing from people are very high hopes. there are a lot of people showing up to be part of the revolution who want to take part of it. they are complaining they don't have weapons to give these men who are showing up, and these are men from all parts of society showing up to try to become a fighter in the revolution, but in the last few
days, there have been some developments. the town of jihada which is 200 miles southbenghazi, and they say they were able to secure the airport in misrat a where they are securing right now, and they were able to take that airport from gadhafi forces, so there is a lot of celebration concerning that. they are focusing on misrata saying they believe that is a very, very important city, and without taking that over, they can't finish the job. so there is a lot of high hopes here shg, still it is an impass the country, and are not seeing the fighting in the places near benghazi, but more near misrata. >> we have talked a lot about misrata where a couple of journalists were killed. specifically, there is a port there where a lot of the aid ships are coming in to rescue some of the refugees and get
them out, but why is that so significant that the rebels now have control of that airport. help us paint the bigger picture. >> it is the location partly. it is closer to tripoli, and every step they can get closer to tripoli, they believe is a big step. but the airport in particular, because the port was so heavily damaged, they are hoping that the airport can be used in time for bringing in more supplies, for bringing in more help and aid to the people there, and so significant if that can happen. we do know that there is a ship from the international red kros that has gotten into the port, and we do know that will was a ship last week that was able to bring out about 800 people from inside misrata, and the stories they are telling, brooke, is horrific what they are seeing in the streets and dead bodies in the streets and unable to retrieve family members because of the shelling coming from the outside of the city, so for the rebels to say, look, we have taken over the airport, and they
feel like they have secured part of that city, it is to them a very big deal. >> very significant. sara sidner, thank you for putting the perspective on the story from libya there in benghazi. thank you. and now to this. he may have been one of the world's most wanted men, but keep in mind, he was also a father, and now the sons of the osama bin laden are accusing the united states of violating international law by killing an unarmed man and even going so far as to call it an assassination. the accusation was provided by a statement who says that slobodan milosevic and saddam hussein were afforded courts of law, and how is the accusations from the family? >> well, it is reacting strongly, because they are calling the united states acting
improperly and calling it an execution, and saying that the u.s. violated the law. but the u.s. coming out strongly saying this is not the case. listen to the spokesman jay carney. >> i have addressed the legal authority that the president ordered. we feel strongly that the successful mission of a murderer of people all over the world was entirely justified. >> and the white house has presented the argument of why it is justified and they have done it all along and a u.s. official says today, it was correct under the u.n. charter and the right to self-defense under article 51, but again, it is a pretty -- there's a lot of bravado in the statement released by the bin laden sons, brooke. >> and released by the bin laden sons and omar specifically identifies himself in the statement. what are you learning, deb, about the sons? >> well, it is interesting, because omar is the fourth son
of osama bin laden. there are about ten of them that we know of. half of them renounced their father and rejected the father. but in this letter, which is interesting, they identify themselves as the lawful children and heirs of osama bin laden. and that's how they are speaking out. they want to know whether in fact this man was even their father, the man killed in the mansion. omar, we know, did condemn his father's violent tactics, and he ven felt that perhaps there could be a trial so that he could be tried for humanitarian crimes, and that did not happen. we spoke to jean sasson who originally spoke with omar bin laden. >> omar only knew his father as a big hero after the afghan war and the russians leaving and then think about this, one minute your father is a hero and the next, he is the world's biggest enemy, so that the whole thing was painful for him all of these years.
>> so, again, you know, it is one thing that they are really speaking out as a family. they want conclusive proof, brooke, that in fact he is dead. they have asked for photos or video, and they say that this could be done in private or in public. they also want the united states' actions investigated. as a matter of fact, part of the letter they say that quote, they demand an inquiry into the fundamental question as to why our father was not arrested and tried, but summarily executed without a court of law. as you mentioned why wasn't he given the same treatment as saddam hussein, brooke. >> well, they want the inquiry, but yet they are accusing the united states of assassinating their father, and it seems counterintuitive, but deb feyerick, we will leave it there. >> of course, of course. all of the charges we feel are ridiculous and absurd, so we are hoping that the iranian and islamic republic of iran and all
facets of the government come to the recognition that these are two american innocent hikers. >> you know the story. two americans detained nearly two years in iran after a hiking trek right along the border. their alleged crime? espionage. so why another delay in their trial? i speak with the mothers coming up. plus this. stressful knowing that we will have water coming up and might be in our house. >> the mighty mississippi ranging toward louisiana right now. 3 million acres in the path. folks who live there, can you imagine, bracing for the worst. stay right here. the vegetables. deliciously rich. flavorful! [ female announcer ] together at last. introducing new stouffer's farmers' harvest with sides of lightly sauteed farm-picked vegetables. find more ways to get to the table at letsfixdinner.com.
iran. their trial was delayed yet again today. no one seems to know why. according to a swiss diplomat, both shane bauer and shane fatale wef -- joshua fattal were not even brought into the courtroom. sarah shourd was released on bail last year and refuses to return to iran for the trial. iran says that all three hikers crossed into the country illegally, and the u.s. state department is pressing for more information about today's trial delay. >> we are hopeful that the iranian government will recognize the fact that these individuals have been held now for nearly two years. they have not been charged formally and that they should be released on humanitarian grounds, and that we are hopeful that message has gotten through. >> as a result of the delay today, the families of bower and fattal are saying that we are more concerned about the health
and welfare as a result of their nonappearance. just yesterday, i got a chance to speak with the mothers of shane bower and josh fattal, and they are waiting and counting 650 days now, of the uncertainty over their son's futures is gut-wrenching for them, but they hold out hope that iran will show some compassion for their sons. >> reporter: obviously, you are hoping for the release, but on the other side here, if iran decides that josh and shane didn't just wander into iran from iraqi kurdistan as they say on their hiking vacation, what would your next move be then? laura to you, who do you call? who is the first phone call? >> well, you know, the one-year detention which is the sentence for illegal entry into a country has been more than served. josh and shane are in jail for 21 months. so, you know, if they entered illegally into iran, they have
more than served their sentence. and so, all charges we feel are ridiculous, and absurd. so we are hoping that the iranian, and the islamic republic of iran and all facets of the government come to the recognition that these are two american innocent hikers that they have detained more than enough. >> reporter: so, do you think that story is so much bigger than josh and shane and sarah? this is really country versus country? and how does that make you feel if that is the case? >> we feel terrible. this is a time of enormous angui anguish. enormous desperation. our kids are in a isolation from any other prisoner. we don't get to speak to them more than two five-minute phone calls over 21 months. this is a terrible situation and we want it to end. >> reporter: cindy, have you gotten everything that you needed thus far from the u.s. government in this ordeal? have they done enough?
>> well, when shane and josh are home, we know enough has been done, but iran needs to quit playing games with shane and josh and their families. this is political. they need to take it out of the political arena, and our families are devastated. they are 28 and they need to be out doing what they do for the world, and get on with this. we were told sarah actually was told two months into the interrogation by her interrow gator, it does not matter if you are innocent, because we will stop interrogations, and this has become political. it is obvious that it has been stated to her. >> reporter: when is the last time, laura, that you spoke with josh? >> it was thanksgiving weekend and the saturday that it was a five-minute phone call and my husband got on, and we spoke, but we know that josh was being watched and listened to, but we gave him great hope. we told him that we are working as hard as we can to get him home, and he was more than eager
to feel that his release was son. >> reporter: cindy, to you. what about shane? when is the last time you spoke? >> again, the saturday after thanksgiving, i had a five-minute call. and the other point that i want to make is that shane and josh have not yet met with their attorney who has tried very hard, who is being very courageous, and have not yet sat down with their attorney going into the second trial. the unjustness of this situation is ridiculous. >> and why not? what is the explanation? is any explanation being offered to you or their attorney? >> no, they were told in the first trial that yes, he would get his time with shane and josh and there is always a yes, we need to do it in time. it will happen in time, and it never happens. we are not given any reasons. we are in a black hole. our communication is very slim. >> how hopeful are you that iran will share that compassion and that your son and laura's son
will get to come home? >> well, we are mothers, and we are families and we always hold out hope, however, again, we have no indication of how this is going to go. so, we sit with the support of everyone that is gathered. we know that the world is watching. iran knows that the world is watching. so, we are hopeful that i will do the right thing. >> my thanks to cindy and laura for talking to me. meanwhile, right now the attorney for bower and fattal says he is waiting for a letter from the iran court. and a fallout from the sudden about face saying that after they had allowed same-sex marriages the green light, the navy has a change. and it is a likely go for newt gingrich, and could the former speaker of the house shake up the race for president? the former speaker says you better believe it, and he will tell us why. we're adding new cell sites...
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here's a look at some of the top stories this hour. security forces in yemen opened up fire on a crowd of protesters in two cities today. we are hearing that three people were killed. dozens more injured. p this is according to a medical spokesperson there. and some medical staff believe that security forces are aiming for a massacre there in yemen. the protesters were chanting one more week left for you saleh and
if he does not step down, they will storm his palace. and today, newt gingrich announced he will be running for president, and he said he will announce it at 9:00 p.m. via fox news, but then later we were told that the official announcement will happen this afternoon. in a few moments wie will speak to a former gingrich spokesman rich gay lynn. and the navy does an about face on the same-sex marriages. the navy chief of chaplains would have allowed gays to marry on navy bases, that is after the pentagon scraps the "don't ask, don't tell" policy, be nit now t is being delayed to review the policy. and now a delta flight from orlando to boston, a passenger tried to open up an emergency door mid flooigt anight and had restrained, and nobody was hurt, and the plane landed safely in boston. now this -- >> floodwaters are pushing this
boat down river about three miles quicker than usually would. that's got this captain of the boat somewhat nervous. >> you have to see this, folks. coming up next we will give you a view of the mississippi floodwaters like you have never seen from where else? on board of a tow boat, and we will take you to patrick ottmann who is on there live, and you don't want to miss this. we're going to hike up here, so we'll catch up with you guys. [ indistinct talking and laughter ] whew! i think it's worth it. working with a partner you can trust is always a good decision. massmutual. let our financial professionals help you reach your goals.
the mississippi. tough times for people who have already lost their homes to a rising mississippi river. tough decisions for the people in charge of opening all of those floodgates and saving some homes and submerging others. the mighty mississippi is setting recordses as the crest rolls south, the second high es level ever in vicksburg and second highest in natchez, and it is expected to rise another six feet in the next month. and if you go down to morganstown, louisiana, you see what people are doing. they are holding a sandbag party near the bayou and near their homes. listen to this. >> it is stressful knowing that we are going to have water a that might be coming up, being our house, so we are trying to prepare. >> i am worried, because i am pregnant, and in a new job and my old man is offshore and not here to help me.
>> there is another tough decision coming up about whether to open up the morganza spillway, and if they do, it will send floodwaters rushing toward morgan city, and around there, but it would take the pressure off of the levees at baton rouge, and help the water from rising in new orleans which one woman says that is the last place on earth that needs more high water. let's go down to patrick ottmann who is on a mississippi tow boat between vicksburg, mississippi, baton rouge, louisiana, and this is tough stuff here, and the tugboat captain does not even recognize the river, is that right? >> that's absolutely right. it is a very different mississippi. the barge company that runs this tugboat we are on, the canal barge company, runs these boats up and down the mississippi, but
they have never had quite a ride like this one we are on and on for the rest of the day. i have been on it most of the day, and that because you can't see the mississippi river, and see the banks, brooke. the river is going into the tree line behind us, and on in some spots for miles, reaching some homes and flooding some homes. so it is looking more like a lake than a river. it is a different tow boat for this company. usually, you can see off here, you can see that they have 20 of these barges that will push down to load up and drop off goods, but they have nine, brooke, and that is because that is as much weight as they want to carry. these are 33 mack trucks and each barge worth of goods and the added weight and the huge floodwater pushing us down the river, it is too dangerous for us to carry that much load, so that the concern is that they don't want to have that speed, and they could cause damage to this bridge, so it is incurring a lot less, and so a lot of the
goods that are expected to be delivered to gas stations would go to farms, and they just aren't being delivered. another issue is to run the boats at night. when we arrived in vicksburg, the boat expected to leave a lot earlier than it did, because quite frankly, the coast guard does not want them going under the bridges, because it is going three miles faster than normal, and so, brook, because of that issue of going under the bridges at night in the dark, they don't want us to go into baton rouge tonight, so we just found out that we will be spending the night on this boat. my producer just told myself and the crew, we will take care of it and get off in the morning, but as you can imagine, it is affecting things big and small including the cnn crew on this tow boat. >> well, patrick ottmann, that means you are going to look at the stars above the mighty mississippi. and now, wait, i want to understand the pace of the barge, because it is going so fast, and because of the captain
there, it has had to change the way he has to run the thing? >> absolutely. they are actually putting the boat in reverse at some points to slow down, because this wall of water that is pushing us down the river is just so strong. they never felt anything like it. 35 years of operating a tow boat like this, and never felt anything like it. so, you know, it says that you respect a river like this, but no one who operates on this river has seen this in their lifetime. he feels very lucky, but he is taking a very healthy attitude and respectful attitude towards this river, because it is just a force of nature that is like nothing else they have felt before in the many, many years of operating on the river, brooke. >> patpatrick, one more questio for you and let me put on the news nerd hat, and this is cool, you are live on a boat on the mississippi river, and how are you pulling that off, may i ask?
>> on a wing and a prayer. we have been working on that all day long. we have got some amazing people. you know in atlanta we call them digital news gathering and this is cutting edge and you won't see this anywhere else in the world, brooke. and we are lucky, because it is a curvy river, and so when we get to a river, we will lose the shot, and get it back on the straight away. >> well, we were holding our breath, and we got it here, patrick. and so the rising waters are closing casino after casino and remember the aerial pictures we showed you yesterday in one popular gambling area in tunica, mississippi, and now casey wian heads down to vicksburg. >> brooke, this flood is that heading south to the mississippi river has inundated parts of vicksburg, mississippi, and over here you can see diamond jack
casino closed for several day, and on the building farthest out into the river, that looks like a window, but it is a door four or five feet under water, and this river is not expected to crest here for another week or so, and the water is expected to rise another four to five feet. this casino is expected to be closed for about a month. over here, you can see one of the local businesses in marine and industrial supply business setting up sandbags in the last couple of weeks to try to prevent it from being swamped and a barrier with the river expected to rise another four or five feet, and we don't know if it is enough to hold back the incredible flow, and also the army corps of engineers has been working diligently in the back waters and the levees to try to fortify those structures. one of the things that i are doing is to lay miles and miles of heavy duty plastic sheeting on the back side of the levees so that if if the water overtops the levees, it will stop the erosion and the levees from collapsing and perhaps save some of the farmland.
what they are predicting is that the water level here is going to exceed the record level in 1927. in that massive flood 500 people died and more than a half million displaced out of their homes. the army corps of engineers says they don't expect anything like that this time, particularly, because that levee system is in such better shape this time. brooke? >> casey wian, thank you very much on the mighty mississippi. and now we switch to national politics. do folks know the real newt gingrich? his strategy to win the white house next year. here is a hint, he is getting personal. stay with us.
newt gingrich, and at some point today will be throwing in his hat into the ring as a full-fledged candidate for president, we think. keep in mind that back in march gingrich raised expectations he would announce a little something here in atlanta and a bunch of reporters followed him around and announced that he had a website. so fast forward 10:38 this morning i give you newt gingrich. >> watch at 9:00 p.m. tonight. >> when are you going to announce? >> 9:00 tonight. >> on facebook? >> facebook, twitter and hannity. >> all at the same time? >> all at the same time. >> all at the same time. >> okay. so you heard the man. announcement 9:00 tonight, and now the gingrich team is saying it will happen this afternoon and we are waiting.
rich gaily, a former republican strategist and former gingrich press secretary. >> former press secretary. >> former press secretary, and rich, you know, not to make too much of this, but you are a message guy, and we heard, you know, 9:00 and now hearing 2:00 and now it is 3:37 on the east coast, and you are a message guy, what is going on? >> what is going on is that the only people who matters to are people like you and me. i work for fred thompson four years ago and i can remember the barrage of phone calls i got on a daily basis demanding to know the exact second that he was going to formally announce. i said, we are not going the hide it under a bushel basket and when we announce, we want you to know about it, and turned out that fred thompson did it on the jay leno team, and according to the many people, that was the high point of fred's campaign. >> but newt will be doing this via facebook and twitter.
>> and via hannity. >> neither here nor there. >> but that is the core of it. what he is trying to get to, and think they this is a good strategy for him, is to demonstrate that he is a candidate of the 21st century, and he is not sending out faxes and not sending out beepers. he is using facebook and twitter. >> well, if he is projecting this image of a 21st century candidate, he is 67. we did research and it is ronald reagan who was the oldest to assume office and he was 69 at the time. so it does seem like newt gring rich has been around for a while, and is that a problem when the voters are looking for a fresh face? >> well, it is a but it is a problem they understand. newt turns 68 next month, but this is not a surprise for the gingrich campaign, because they know how old the boss is. >> but what about the voterers? >> well, that is the crux of the campaign and the last time newt made huge political gains and not counting when he retired, but the positive news was 1994,
and in is 2011 and that is 17 years ago and for a lot of younger voters you may as well be talking about fdr and the new deal as opposed to the takeover of the united states house of representatives after 40 years in the election of 1994. that is the crux of the campaign. whether or not he can do it on a consistent basis and convince people that not only does he have really good ideas, which he always does, can he -- >> the idea guy. >> can these be ideas that have relevance to the people he needs to energize and get out the younger people who actually go out to get the signatures and do all of the things that in iowa and new hampshire and south carolina. >> up to the people. but let's talk about another person who is grabbing the headlines, his current wife who seems to be everywhere including right here smack dab of the main website. do you know, rich, what the reason is for that? why she's so front and center? is she weighing in on policy matters? why is that? >> i don't know.
i have no idea. i'm not that close. i'm not at all close the that campaign, so i don't know whether she gets to vote on policy or not, and that would surprise me. >> good move the put her out there front and center? >> a plus and minus. the obvious pluses is that he wants to demonstrate the commitment to his wife and she is supportive of him, and i think that newt runs the risk of overplaying that hand. i was following newt on twitter until a month or two ago or however long it was, and i got a tweet saying update from cali, and i didn't want to hear from her, but newt. so i ended it. >> and rich, let me just say that she is mrs. gingrich number three, and he had carried on a lengthy extramarital affair and how do you think that will play out not only from the voters and the social conservatives and is she ready to step up to answer any questions? >> well, i don't know if she has to step up to abs questions, because the first part of the question is a good one, but
again, this is not new news. mother jones has been writing about this every three months for the last 30 years. >> well, she could be the first lady so a lot of people care. >> well, ronald reagan was the first divorced president, and jane wiman wyman was going to ct of the woodworks and scream, but it was not an issue. and if it is a big enough issue, they won't vote for him, and if he loses a big important state or an important state like south carolina or florida by a little bit, then it may well be that was the difference. if he wins or loses by a lot, then it won't have mattered. >> rich galen, we will both be check our twitter to see if he announces today. than you for coming on. >> you're welcome. >> if president obama gets re-elected i think that your taxes are going if go through the roof. >> okay.
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a law enforcement source is telling us that snippets of all of the information seized from osama bin laden have been forwarded by the fbi agents to specifically agents in the field. but, here is the thing. that source is also saying that contrary to perhaps what you have heard elsewhere, no new plots have been uncovered to date. the information sent to agents is said to include phone numbers, and more fallout today from within bin laden's family. reza sayah has the latest from islamabad, pakistan. >> one of osama bin laden's adult sons outrage over the u.s. raid over the bin laden compound here in pakistan last week in a statement that appeared in t"th new york times", omar bin laden says he is not convinced that his father is dead until he sees some evidence, perhaps his father's remains, but bin laden's son goes on the say that if indeed his father is dead, he
has the right to question why u.s. forces executed an unarmed man instead of giving him his day in court. he called that a violation of not just international law, but of u.s. law as well. he also condemned u.s. forces dumping his body at sea as well as u.s. forces shooting an unarmed woman in the leg. you will recall that according to u.s. officials navy s.e.a.l.s shot one of bin laden's widows in the leg. a little more about omar bin laden, and it is believed he lived with his father osama bin laden in afghanistan until the late 1990s when he left. the two had a little bit of a falling out after omar bin laden condemned his father's use of violence. but clearclearly, in this parti statement, it is the u.s. he is condemning. a senior u.s. official angrily rejected the allegations in the letter saying that there is an inherent right of self-defense en shrined in the u.s. charter and this is a man, referring to
osama bin laden, who is a terrorist who has declared war on the united states. speaking on behalf of his family, omar bin laden is calling on pakistani officials to release the bin laden widows and any other family members. he also says that if his questions are not answered within 30 days, he is forced to go to the international criminal court. in the meantime, questions linger about another bin laden son, and this one hamza. a pakistani official is reportedly saying that according to one of the bin laden widows, hamza was living in the compound, and now he is missing. that could mean one of several things. it could mean that hamza bin laden left before the raid, escaped during the raid or u.s. forces took him away or it could mean that there is no truth to this matter. u.s. officials deny that they took anyone after this raid. they say that the only things that they took away were bin laden's remains, some of his
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not forgotten. >> it is overwhelming to be here and be seeing this right now. >> country music star sarah evans pitching in down south. she has a special connection to the area that got hit. she's going to join me live. that is ahead. plus, donald trump talking tough on taxes and president obama. what he's saying. your political ticker is next. stay with us.
. we are hearing more about the woman that survived, stuck in her van for 49 days. hunters came across her standing barefoot near her stranded vehicle. today we're hearing the call that they placed to 911. >> we found a lady that has been stuck in her van since march 19th, about dead. her husband left on march 22nd and never came back. we were out here driving around and came in from wild horse on four wheelers and the roads were washed out. she was stuck in a ditch. >> this is dispatch. we're sending a medical helicopter up that way. >> rita got by on jerky, trail mix, fish oil pills and hard candy. she's in fair condition. she's back home in british columbia. she was enjoying more solid foods. crews are still out there
searching for her husband. rita said she last saw him on march 22nd when he left their mud-caked van on foot to try to help. let me take you to washington to mark preston. joiningi joininging me now, no newt news? >> no, we're expecting that in a couple of hours. the former house speak of from georgia is going to announce that he is going to run for president. we're getting a slow start from what it was back in 2007 when we saw all of the republicans getting in, all of the democrats getting in. but the presidential field is starting to gel together a little bit. you know, brooke, up in new hampshire, one candidate that we're waiting on is donald trump. is he going to run? is he stringing us along? he was speaking to a business group and had criticism of president obama, no surprise.
he was also critical of his fellow republicans. specifically, of paul ryan. he's a wisconsin congressman and also trying to be the architect of the republican budget. mr. ryan is suggesting that perhaps the medicare program as we know it gets altered to help bring the debt back into understanding. the debt is out of control. but as far as president obama, listen to this warning donald trump had today about your taxes. brooke? >> do we know -- >> president obama gets really elected, i think your taxes are going to go through the roof. and i do believe that he's holding them down now as long as he can because he wants to get through this election but i said it before, i met with a great group of folks and some of the real community leaders and we had a very frank discussion. and i said, look, if he gets in office, i believe -- i honestly believe that your taxes are going to go to a level that they haven't been at in a long time and that's not going to be good for this country. that's not going to be good for
business. it's not going to be good for new hampshire. it's going to be good for no one. >> and there you are, brooke. donald trump in new hampshire speaking before a business group. by the end of the month he will tell us whether he is running for president. brooke? >> it's a bit of a waiting game, isn't it, for some of these guys? >> yes. >> that makes your job interesting, i guess. thank you very much. we'll get another ticker update in half an hour. i want to begin this hour, hello, i'm brooke baldwin. osama bin laden's sons are speaking about their father's death and they are threatening the united states. the sons, they say, that he was assassinated. that is in minutes. first, let's begin the hour with this. the world's attention for the last week and a half shifted to pakistan and osama bin laden, we did not notice what was going on with another infamous man. one question we haven't asked in weeks, where is moammar gadhafi.
consider this, he has not been seen since the raid on his compound 12 days ago. supporters say that he is fine. even libya state television say they showed photos of him taken after the air strike. cnn has not been able to confirm if that video was taken after the strike. one of his son, three of his grandchildren were killed in that particular attack but gadhafi was a no-show at their funerals. libyan officials say that was out of security concerns. so is he did or alive? watch this. >> we have no evidence about what mr. gadhafi is doing right now. to tell you the truth, we are not interested in what he is doing. we're not looking after individuals. >> we're in tripoli in the capital city.
nema, gadhafi has been quiet. what has the word been as far as his whereabouts? >> reporter: well, he's in mourning, understandably unwell after the loss of his youngest son. today the spokesman was pretty blunt with us, actually. he said that he's in hiding. it's completely understandable, he said, that he would be in hiding. he's had three attempts from nato on his life and we have to keep him safe. but he did tell us, be reassured, that he is meeting with people and carrying out the day to day leading of this country. >> are the rebels buying that, that he's in hiding? >> reporter: well, he's pretty definitively in hiding. absolutely no one has any idea where he is. i think what we're hearing from nato might be sour grapes. it's naive to say that weapon don't know or care. of course we know where he is. there is such an impasse. one day the country of this town
goes to rebels and then to the libyan government and more and more it's looking that it might possibly be the only way out of this is a negotiated solution. if you're not doing that with gadhafi, then who are you doing it with? the best he can do is stay off the site and stay safe and hopefully he's valuable enough that le lead a negotiation effort with the rebels, brooke. >> we're looking at videos, some of the crumbled compound. they say that they are going after these targets and they have been targeting the compound in tripoli. but what about momentum? what about this regime from where you are in the capital city? does it appear to be crumbling? >> you know, overhead we hear the strikes. we could hear the booms, and the explosions. when you go outside, it's very important to remember that tripoli has always been very isolated in the sense that it's quite an affluent town. it's an oil producer and
producing 1.8 million barrels a day and there was a sense now that is growing that people are beginning to blame nato rather than gadhafi for the desperations that they are living under. the fuel and food shortages, constant strikes. so this hope that was being held out that tripoli would unmask, rise up, is starting to seem a little distant. when we speak to some of the libyan government officials, they are feeling and sounding the most secure we've heard them for a while. you know, they seem to be thinking that this is really just a waiting game. and with the amount of money that nato is spending and with the reality that the rebels are holding and seeding it and then taking it again, it's a back and forth game at the moment. there's no realistic lead here that fundamentally someone is going to have to sit down and talk to them. and that's what they are hoping and waiting for, brooke. >> mina, what about misrata? we talk a lot about misrata and certainly people there have not
forgotten that a war is being waged. rebels have seized the airport. why is that so significant? >> reporter: well, it's the best news that the rebels and people of misrata have had for a while. there's been such sporadic aid and access. because if you remember, gadhafi forces threatened to mortar the dock at the port. that will provide them with a humanitarian corridor and a more focused and solid humanitarian access for about five days. there was no way for anyone to get in. a red cross ship managed to dock on monday but already we're into tuesday. if they can hold the airport, then they can have at least a chance of withholding the siege that misrata is currently under, brooke. >> mina, we are not taking our eye off this story. thank you so much.
and now, more news unfolding right now. rapid fire. let's go. take you to syria. two soldiers are dead as opponents of the ra jad regime and shelled cities. at least five people were killed in homes. one resident tells cnn that they heard two hours of gunfire with snipers up on the rooftops. cnn has not been granted access into syria. the regime has been cracking down on protests for two months now. a federal jury in new york convicts a hedge fund boss of conspiracy and fraud. accused of making $60 million from insider trading and dozens of phone calls. he could face up to 20 years in prison. his lawyer plans to appeal. a college senior who was almost kicked out of the country last year graduates today. her name is jessica and she's an
illegal immigrant that came here as a child. she was arrested last year weeks before graduating college because of a suspended driver's license. i interviewed jessica shortly after that happened. the government gave her a year to complete her degree and as of today she gets another year to stay in the united states. one more scary time in the air. a passenger tried to open a door. the crew took him down. everyone on board is still okay. no word on what the suspect was trying to do. it's the fourth major incident on board a domestic flight in just the past three days. a woman suspected of stealing a flatbed truck leads police on a high-speed chase. check out how it ends. a food flew open blocking the driver's view. she runs, flees, not wearing so
much, in fact, and the lack of clothes did not help her very much. there she is running along the shoulder barefoot and can't get very far without shoes. a divorced mother is fighting cancer in north carolina. she says she doesn't have much time left. but a judge ruled her two children must leave her, move to chicago to live with their father. are the reasons fair? and what will she do about it? coming up, i'll ask her. she's going to be live. stay right here. naomi pryce: i am. i'm in the name your own price division. i find empty hotel rooms and help people save - >> - up to 60% off. i am familiar. your name? > naomi pryce. >> what other "negotiating" skills do you have? > i'm a fifth-degree black belt. >> as am i. > i'm fluent in 37 languages. >> (indistinct clicking) > and i'm a master of disguise
all right. i want to tell you a story that has people raging and rallying across the internet. a north carolina mother is told that she must send her two children to her ex-husband in part because she has breast cancer. this is the mother. she's live in new york. i thank you for coming on because it's a story i wanted you to share here. first if i may, let me ask you about your health. this is stage 4 breast cancer. whap kind of prognosis did your oncologist give you? >> well, brooke, that's the question. as far as prognosis is concerned, nobody really knows how long i will live and that is in particular what made the judge feel uncomfortable. >> so first before we get -- >> sure. >> forgive me for interrupting you. you don't know how long you have. obviously, you have two little ones. the first thing when you get a prognosis like that, you think
about your children and then to the ruling because the judge says you need to share custody with your soon to be ex-husband, they need to move in with him in chicago. how did that sit with you? >> i don't think that the basis of the ruling is appropriate. none of us knows how long we are going to live. my doctors don't know how long i'm going to live and if you went to your doctor, he wouldn't know how long you have to live. >> were you you surprised? >> by the ruling? >> yeah. >> i was a bit in shock when we heard it. i was a little concerned because the custody evaluator had kind of said similar things to what the ruling ended up saying. and so when the judge asked for three months to decide what i consider to be a clear-cut case, i was a little worried. >> we're looking at pictures of you and your two kids, sophia and bud. how do they feel about moving in
with dad? >> they do not want to move to chicago. they want to stay in durham with me and where they've lived for three years and they've put down roots. they have a wonderful support system of friends, great schools, all of these things i documented in court. and the kids are just really happy with me. i've been their primary caregiver always. and our life, our daily life is not affected by cancer. >> you've mentioned -- >> so -- >> you mentioned your prognosis, that it is unknown and the judge ruling that your health is concerning because, you know, you are fine today, may not be fine tomorrow. and so the judge ruled that your kids need more contact with i think the wording was the nonill parent. you're healthy now but what happens down the road when you can't play with them, you can't pick them up from school because
you're too sick. then how does that work? >> well, i think if that time were to come, then this case would need to be revisited at that time. no one has a crystal ball. it's not appropriate for a judge to base a ruling on something that is an unknown just because it makes her uncomfortable. only god knows how long each person is going to live and a judge just needs to accept that and rule on the facts of today. and that's not what this judge did. >> i know you mentioned you're in durham. you're being treated i'm sure by fantastic doctors at duke. >> yes. >> but you live in durham, you don't have a job, you could go to chicago as per the ruling of the soon to be ex-husband supporting the family there. why not just move to chicago? >> well, for a few reasons. i do have a top notch medical team at duke cancer institute. it took me many years to find this team. i was treated at two different
hospitals first and that was something of a nightmare that we don't have time to discuss today but since i'm at duke, my health has improved, the cancer is stable, at the end of march a new drug came on the market. i got it april 1st because i was at duke. immediately in the first month my health improved even more, you know. so it's really -- it's a life or death sort of decision. i mean, to me it looks like the judge decided that my husband's job was more important than my health and i think that's a real problem. certainly his -- there's no guarantee that he will keep this job. it's a training program for two years. to rule that two children should be uprooted from their home on -- assuming that he will keep this job for long term -- >> there are several factors.
did the judge, do you know, consider anything else really other than your health? >> she considered that i was not employed and that my husband has a job in chicago. and that's basically what it looks like from the order. those were the main concerns. there were a lot of pergerous testimony by my husband that -- >> forgive me for cutting you off, i want to ask and then i have to let you go, do you plan to appeal? >> yes. i'm looking for an attorney that will step forward and take this case on pro bone know basis. i need to get this appealed. >> thank you. thank you so much. i will. >> to the best with your health. >> thank you. kids being trained for terror. insur generals strapping bonds
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now to a compelling story out of afghanistan. just last week, four young boys, all under the age of 14, were detained at a border crossing between jalalabad and afghanistan. militants recruited these young boys from within pakistan and sent them on suicide missions. their targets? americans. we got this rare access inside kabul's juvenile rehab center and spoke to exclusively to young boys that can't be named simply for their own safety. >> reporter: around this 9-year-old's boys neck, it was given to him by a religious teacher, to strengthen his faith, keep him safe, and make him brave. three years before that very same mula sent him on a suicide mission. he told us to go and put on bombs and explode and that we wouldn't die, explained the boy.
when we came to the border, we asked people if we put on bombs and exploded ourselves, would we get killed? they said yes. but then we were arrested and we were brought here. here is where the boy and his 10-year-old companion are being held. afghan intelligence say they and two other boys were coming in from pakistan to carry out suicide bombings, that they had been told that afghanistan was full of infidels. their fate is undecided. they haven't been decided if they will be charged. the center insists that they are in dire need of help but it's not that simple. we don't have any particular program for these boys, she says. so far, the rehabilitation has been comprised of attending classes taught in a language they don't speak. sitting among boys far older,
dude delling and drawing while other students take dictation. unfortunately, she says, we don't have any psychologists in the center to help these children and we really need one. the boys seem to be coping as best they can. one minute they giggle, then feel guilty. we didn't tell our parents that we were leaving, says the boy. we made mistakes. and then there's the anger directed at the teacher they say put them in this position. he cheated us, he says. administrators hearsare say, th are minors. i'd legally they should be set free but they are vulnerable and for at least now they could faith in god so strong they would have given their lives. now putting their faith in this country's justice system to give them their lives back. >> wow.
live in kabul, i watched that whole piece. these are boys doodling in class? how many boys are in this center and how long are they detained? >> reporter: well, as far as the boys that were charged with being suicide bombers, there are four of them in this center. how long they are detained, nobody knows at this point. that's the saddest thing about this story. because even though intelligence officials that we've spoken with, the ones responsible for the boy's arrest, they believe that they were innocent, that they fell under the sway of militant teachers, that they were brainwashed and should be set free. they also think they should get rehabilitation. there needs to be a sentence doled out by a court determining how long they should be detained in this center but nobody knows how long it will take for a judgment to come through. that could be weeks, months, years where the justice system moves at a snail's pace.
even if the boys are sentenced to a couple years of rehab in this center, how are they going to get the care they need when there is not a psychologist at the center to get them the therapy that they need. brooke? >> what about as they are in this detention center, do they at all get to see their parents? >> reporter: as of now they have not been able to see their parents. they have not even been able to speak to their parents yet. they say they gave their parents and family members their numbers and the boys really miss their relatives back home. they are very afraid and want to be able to go back home and see their relatives and parents. they feel really bad for what they have done. the authorities don't know if the parents will be able to come here. they are trying to get them here. one intelligence official told me they believe if the parents can come here, the rehabilitation of the boys would take a lot less time.
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let's pick up where we left off, shall we? the big newt gingrich news. paul, this is significant because he's the first major candidate to finally officially say hey, i'm in? >> yeah, he is. he's the first major candidate. i think you will see some other major candidates do it very soon. of course, a lot of the others are officially candidates because they filed an exploratory committee. let's not get into it. one other person has formally declared. that's who i call barack obama but he's a democrat and fighting for re-election. >> right. we're talking gop. let's talk pros and cons, paul. newt gingrich is the idea man, one man think tank. what are the pros?
>> that is a pro because he's known as the idea man. he's got a long resume. people know that he's very experienced and he's got a lot of name recognition, which is good when you're running for president. >> okay. cons? >> two of those pros are cons. he's been around and maybe he's too old. he's 67. that's one of the cons. the other thing, name recognition. that's a good thing but maybe a bad thing. take a look at these two polls from cnn. we asked republicans only, do you want to see newt gingrich run for nomination? 51% yes and 45% no. and favorable rating among all americans, 44% say they have an unfavorable opinion of newt gingrich. so some cons, brooke. >> and now the waiting game continues. who will be the next guy or gal. we will never know. osama bin laden's sons
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the u.s. reacts to criticism from osama bin laden's sons and quite a different view of the epic flooding down south. time to play reporter roulette. live in mississippi on a river barge. talk to me about where you are and how big that river looks. >> reporter: brooke, we just arrived in mississippi and it's taken our breath away. we've gone by several farms completely flooded out and you can only imagine that it's ruined but total destruction, incredible flooding along some of these farms, along the
mississippi river. it's going to be quite the lengthy clean-up process. you have to imagine they have lost so much, if not everything. we've been going along the mississippi river all day long. we have yet to see the banks of the river. it stretches out as far as the eye can see into the horizon, past the trees. it's just a problem situation that you can't get your mind around. it's been interesting. the barge that we're on we're going to pick it up and go back to the river. more than twice the number of goods and more weight causes you to go faster. we have a flood current pushing them along to have that much cargo is too dangerous.
>> it's amazing. patrick, thank you so much. next, barbara starr at the pentagon. 24 hours here, what happened? >> politics, politics, politics. the navy was set to allow civil union marriage take place on military bases. you can see this sort of thing happening at west point, at the naval academy, just about anywhere. and then a lot of members of congress started to weigh in and said that they objected to all of this. because of something called the defensive marriage act. that's a federal law that says marriage is between a man and a woman. military bases are on federal property. the pentagon says, okay, we've got to stop and rethink the whole thing. so it's all fairly confusing but there is a lot of politics under
lying this. advocates for the repeal of don't ask, don't tell, which is to go fully into force this year are viewing this as the first move of congress to try and stop that. a lot of concern. the pentagon says it's still trying to figure out what to do about marriages on military bases. >> so what happens next? >> they are going to look at it and i guess they can get it past congress. >> next, the sons of osama bin laden are accusing the united states of violating international law, going as far as calling it an assassination of their father. deborah, are the sons -- they are calling this an assassination but are they skeptical that their father is even dead? >> osama bin laden's sons want proof that he was killed and that it is his father.
this statement issued, if the evidence does show that in fact it was the terror mastermind, they want to know why he was killed rather than arrested and brought to trial as was the case with the iraqi president suddam hussein. omar bin laden, the fourth born child is the only child mentioned in this statement, which was sent by an american writer who helped him with his biography. he was the only one who publicly spoke out against al qaeda and his father's violence. the statement reads, just as omar condemned our father, we now condemn the president of the united states for ordering the execution of unarmed men and women, referring, it seems, to the five people killed during that raid on the compound. his sons say they are assembling a team of lawyers and are going to take their case to an international court if the united states does not show the proof they seek. >> deborah, thank you. next to what has now become
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♪ woke up late today, still feeling the sting of the pain ♪ ♪ got dressed and put a smile on my face ♪ >> that is sara evans, country singer and songwriter holding down the number one chart. nominated for cmt's female video of the year. i want to bring her in live. congratulations to you, sara. but the reason why we're talking here, you're lending your voice to the relief disaster concert. the story really hits home for you. tell me why. >> thank you very much. it does hit home for me. i live in birmingham, alabama, and my husband played football for the university of alabama. we're very closely tied in particular to tuscaloosa, which is one of the hardest hit areas. and so i'm so excited to be part
of the cmt benefit concert tomorrow night. it's a telethon that includes so many artists, hank williams junior spearheaded the whole deal and alabama, myself, keith urban, tim mcgraw, lady ant bell lum, just to name a few. >> you leave for nashville tomorrow. we've been looking at video of you and your hubby, jay barker, touring some of the damage there. i think this is concord, alabama, last week. you were visiting with some of the folks who live in the area, talking to people in shelters. talk to me a little bit about that experience. what were people telling you? >> you know, it's one thing to see the devastation on television. it's another thing to actually go and when you see it in person, it's truly heart stopping and we met a man whose home was destroyed and he said, you know, just -- and i think this is how we all feel when the weather starts to go bad and there's tornado warnings and we
all kind of think, you know, it will hit somewhere else. it happens to other people. and this gentleman was telling us that his wife looked out the window and said, it's really dark, it's darker than i've ever seen it and they turn on the news and told to take cover and about, you know, five or ten minutes later they were standing in a pile of rubble and they had nothing where their home was five minutes earlier. it's just devastating. and i'm very grateful to cmt and all of the other artists for doing this concert tomorrow night. >> sara, it's important to point out, you're a mom times seven kids. and so how do you explain to them as a mom, you know, why it is you are going to nashville tomorrow night, why there are all of these people that have lost their homes? how do you explain that? >> i have a very open dialogue with my kids and we're very religious and i just said, you know, these things happen and god is in control ultimately and
we can't always understand and we won't understand everything right now. you know, just trying to give them comfort. basically, we have spent a lot of time as a family praying for the victims, not only in alabama but all over the areas that were affected. so i think that's the main way that i try to teach them, is to pray with them for the families. >> sara evans, it's a lovely message. we'll be looking for you and hank in alabama and all of the other people you rattled off. it's a huge, huge event. tomorrow night, nashville, safe travels for you. cnn encourages supporting our neighbors when disaster strikes. you can find out how to help. logon to our website at cnn.com/impact. and now some pretty candid moments from chelsea handler, the tv star opened up to piers morgan and things got, shall we
say, a little personal. listen. >> would you like to have children? >> no, that's definitely not going to happen. >> never going to happen? >> i hope not. >> why? >> because i'm not somebody that wants to be a mother. i don't -- i have a lot of children in my life from my friends and my family and i don't want to be -- i have no desire to have a child. i feel like there's a lot to give and to go around and i feel like i'm the type of person if i had a child, i think a lot of other things would fall short in my life. >> coming up, piers will be talking with kate whose daughter disappeared from their vacation house in portugal four years ago. she has not been seen since. it's a worldwide exclusive. watch piers tonight at 9:00 eastern only here on cnn. earlier on in this newscast, i spoke with a mother. she is fighting cancer, stage four breast cancer for the right to -- she's also fighting for the right to keep her kids. the judge ruled the children
a north carolina mother is losing custody of her children in part because she has breast cancer. a judge has ruled that she must send her children away from her in north carolina all the way to chicago to her estranged husband. she was shocked about the ruling. here's what she told me. >> no one has a crystal ball. it's not appropriate for a judge to base a ruling on something that's an unknown just because it makes her uncomfortable. only god knows how long each person is going to live and a judge just needs to accept that and rule on the facts of today and that's not what this judge did. it looks like the judge decided that my husband's job was more important than my health. >> sunny, i have so many questions for you. i want to begin here with, is this ruling from this judge -- is it unusual, first of all? >> you know, it isn't unusual and my heart goes out to this woman and to her children, to her family.
it's terrible that she's suffering from terminal breast cancer. but what a judge has to do is decide what is in the best interest of the children. that is the standard. i do not have a copy on the judge's decision. i've been working hard all day to get it. but i can surmise, brooke, that this judge took not only into account the fact that she's very ill but also other factors. sometimes it's what the children want to do, where they want to be. it is sometimes whether or not both parents are working, it is whether both parents are capable of providing a certain education. there are a lot of factors that go into a best interest determination. that is the standard and that is what the judge adhered to. >> she told me she is the primary caregiver and doesn't have a job. is it better to wait until a parent, i.e., alaina is too sick to care for the children before sending them to chicago or is it better to send them to the
non-ill parent? >> i think you take it on a case by case basis. apparently the judge decided that it was appropriate to give the father custody, not only because of the health issue but because of the entire picture. unfortunately, you know, as she mentioned, you never know when you're going to go. you never know when your time is coming. so if she goes early, you want the children to spend time with their mother. but i'm certain that this judge took this into consideration. i looked at the judge's bio. this is a judge that has been active with the susan komen foundation. i can't imagine that she didn't take all of those things into consideration. the fact that she had before her, the facts that she knew at time that she made this decision. >> if the ruling stands, does it set precedent? >> well, i wouldn't say it sets precedent because, again, judge's often take into consideration the health of a parent. you take into consideration whether or not the person has breast cancer or whether or not
the person has colon cancer or whether the person is a drug abuser or the person has diabetes. that has always been a consideration. there have been cases where the health of a mother, breast cancer, has been taken into consideration. so precedent, no. >> as you said, my heart goes out to her and her children and her health. >> absolutely. >> case number two, there is finally resolution to the lindsay lohan necklace theft case. give me the cliff notes version of what we missed. >> well, she's got legal nine lives as far as i am concerned. she pled no contest in this necklace case to misdemeanor theft. the judge sentenced her to 120 days in jail. guess what, brooke? that's the same sentence that she got for the probation violation. she's going to be serving them concurrently, which means no additional jail time. this is the clincher for me. she's apparently not going to spend any time in prison. the sheriff's department is being reported to allow her to do this at home with an
electronic monitoring bracelet and 120 days because of overcrowding may mean 14 days at home. wow. who knew? >> i thought she was supposed to be working as a janitor somewhere. no? >> well, she does have a lot of community service hours. >> okay. >> she does have that and she has been doing her community service so far. but -- >> i see. >> lindsay lohan may not spend any time in prison. legal nine lives, as far as i'm concerned. >> okay. sunny, thank you. hey, did you know that it's poe et tree night at the white house. a certain someone is on the guest list. joe johns is about to tell us about it. that's next. ♪
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now to tomorrow's news today. this was a battle that made international headlines. a new jersey father fought for custody of his son in brazil after the boy was taken there by his mother. now david goldman is speaking out about how he and his son are doing since returning to the u.s. he will join me live tomorrow. do not miss that conversation. and now poetry night at the white house. joe johns is here with the
political pop. what is the deal? >> this is called celebration of american poetry. common is from chicago and like a lot of rappers, not everything he does is mary poppins conservatives are calling him a thug and rove also doesn't like common where he says burning george bush. let's listen to a little bit of the poetry. >> burning bush killing over oil and grease and no weapons of destruction. how can we follow a leader when it's a corrupt one. >> so we reached out to the publicist who hasn't gotten back to us. i can tell you that generally common is not what has been
referred to as a gangster rapper. on a spectrum, he's described as much closer to mainstream, even socially conscious at times and has been on the white house radar for years, even performed at the illinois home state ball so keeping him around a probably a play for the youth vote on the part of the obamas. >> i always thought he was portrayed as a younger guy. nightser guy. he's got a big presence on social media on facebook and twitter and is really having a ball with this mostly humorous but wrote this, politics is politics. i respect that he is weighing in on part of that and apparently doesn't like that
characterization. >> what about the white house in all of this rift raft? do they even care? >> it's a little surprising but the issue came up at the white house briefing. jay carney talked about it. listen. >> while the president doesn't support the kind of lyrics that have been raised here, we think the reports for what he stands for more broadly. >> poetry night at the white house. if you don't know, now you know. >> we know. as always with you, thank you. i'm brooke baldwin here in atlanta. that is it for me. we'll turn things over to wolf blitzer who is back in the u.s. and back from his trip to mun nick. back to you. thanks very much. breaking news we're following. evidence that proves to the united states that osama bin laden was in fact in command plotting terror from his compound in pakistan. stand by. new details on that.